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Published - Monday, June 29, 2009

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Amish asked to pick up after horses

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City of Viroqua officials have opened dialogue with the Amish community to see if the Amish will clean up horse manure.

Viroqua assistant city administrator Matt Giese said he and Mayor Larry Fanta spoke with County Hwy. NN Amish community elder Enos Glick last Thursday about resolving complaints in the city about horse manure.

Giese said the city asked if the Amish could use a sling device that would catch manure before it hit the ground.

“He didn’t seem all that receptive to the idea,” Giese said. “He said a sling would affect steering a horse and carriage. They thought it would be troublesome.”

Giese said the other option is as simple as carrying a bucket and a shovel.

“Just scoop it up,” he said.

Vernon County is home to a number of different Amish communities. The County Hwy. NN Amish are just one group. Giese said the group Glick represents includes about 10 families.

The effort to establish contact with the Amish community and resolve the problems that arise from manure on the city streets came from the city’s public property committee. On May 13, that committee voted unanimously to have city officials communicate directly with the Amish to see if the matter could be easily solved.

Giese said the city office receives numerous calls from people upset after encountering horse manure or driving over it.

“We made it clear to (Glick) that we thought we should talk to them before we started looking at putting laws on the books or enforcement,” Giese said.

Giese, Fanta and Alderman Gary Krause are to meet with Glick again on Monday, June 29, to see if the Amish community has come up with any solutions on its own.

The public property committee is to get an update on the situation at its next meeting on Wednesday, July 8.

The city’s public property committee discussed the matter in 2005 and the city council discussed implementing a law regarding cleaning up after horses in 2006.

“(The manure) does get messy and stinky in summertime,” Viroqua city administrator Jeff Gohlke said.

Giese said the city wants to work with the Amish to find a solution that works for all concerned.

“We don’t want to push the Amish away,” Giese said.
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LagrangeCoIN wrote on Jul 6, 2009 9:23 AM:

" Here in LaGrange County, Indiana where I live, people for many generations have learned to live alongside these people. Yes...they have tried 'horse dropping' dialogues in the past, but there never has been a sensible solution and you might as well learn that the few gripes received are not the feelings of the majority of the people. The by product is truly all natural and biodegradable. One study that could be done is the exhaust study - human nose to a car's exhaust vs. human nose to buggy's exhaust. Which one will live longer? (Warning/disclaimer: This study is extremely hazardous. As the results are obvious, it is not recommended in real life.) I can echo lancasterpa's comments, so there you have it from two of the three largest Amish communities. The advice is to get over it and move on. "

dg2539 wrote on Jul 4, 2009 9:18 AM:

" HAHAHAHA!!!! You all can't be serious?!?!Don't the elected officials have anything better to do in viroqua?? Here are a few suggestions:Job creation,stop the pig farm,tax relief for the community in bad economic times,give back your salaries(if you get one for elected offices),address real crime,economic development.Wow,horse puckey??true it is a inconvenience but there are a lot of farm implements up and down the roads and dead animals along the road that are equally as unsightly,but this is a F-A-R-M community.Odd as this may seem horse manure is a staple by-product of this area(farming).Kind of like the bulll s*@# like this that diverts the attention of residents and readers from the real issues (see above suggestions)How can you be an "elected"official,find something better to do!!!The Amish are critical to this community,stop trying to run'em out!!As an outsider ,I can tell you ,this is foolishness. "

citizen wrote on Jul 2, 2009 3:04 PM:

" Why should those of us who choose to live in town have to smell and/or drive through horse manure???? The Amish are more than able to clean up after their horses, or leave them home! They seem to have little trouble getting motorized transportation when necessary. Would you like to see the WTC parking lot full of poo after the Farmer's market? It stinks and is disgusting. At least WalMart finally got them to park their buggies in the back of the building so no one has to exit their car and step in a pile of it!!!
2000 head of any kind of animal will stink, and we don't need those farms, either. "

Golly Gee wrote on Jun 30, 2009 9:49 AM:

" I am proud of the Amish and how they put family and community above all else. I see this as an opportunity to deal with a very small negative to show that we support and respect the Amish around us. When you meet with the elder next, tell him not to worry about the horse manure ...we will endure. "

rprp wrote on Jun 30, 2009 7:56 AM:

" I think the manure, hay or straw and the mud,rocks and plain old crud left by farmers on roadways that their equipment does not help pay for is by far more offensive than amish horse manure. I don't think farmers should use the roadways for any reason unless they help pay for them. I don't think farm equipment is safe or maybe the state ought to make them comply like everyone else. "

the truth is out there wrote on Jun 28, 2009 6:46 AM:

" I see no problem with them having to clean up there mess. I know contruction guys have to clean up if they get dirt or gravel on the roads. Also I have had many dealings with the amish and to say they are anymore or less trustworthy than non amish is wrong. Also if you really look at there impact to the economy you will see it is very low to minus. No gas tax to help with roads, not much local shopping for sales tax revenue, the list goes on. Another case of someone wanting to be treated equal with more rights. "

090628 wrote on Jun 28, 2009 12:39 AM:

" Just what we need, a poop patrol officer to write citations to Amish Buggies. I am more nose senitive to a 2000 hog farm or 1500 cow dairy farm, when the wind blows, than I am to few Amish horses that come to town to spend and sell products, bringing in traffic.

Most of the buggies I see try to say off the heavey traveled areas.

Come on, no more unenforcable ordinaces. "

jptrempealeau wrote on Jun 27, 2009 8:30 AM:

" I sent a comment yesterday in regards to this article and would like to know why it was not published? "

jptrempealeau wrote on Jun 26, 2009 2:28 PM:

" Instead of worrying about horse manure which is bidegradable and only temporary, cities should be more concerned with waste such as cigarette buts, plastics and other garbage thrown out on the streets by non-Amish. "

michaelschneider823 wrote on Jun 25, 2009 4:38 PM:

" The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Horse poo is dry-it doesn't stick to vehicles and barely to tires. Horses often poo when they are moving, even while trotting or in a fast gate. Driving a buggy in traffic is dangerous enough... are these people suggesting that the Amish man or woman driving the buggy stop whenever the horse drops something and clean it up? Shall they stop right in traffic or pull over and then walk back into traffic to clean it up? Many of the elders don't move that fast, so they'd have a child do it. How many Amish will get hit by cars before the law is repealed? Maybe the Amish should draft a law that we cut our auto emissions by 50% as it makes their horses sick, or maybe cut our speed limits in half. Who really cares if there's horse crap in the street that washes away with the next rain? "

lancasterpa wrote on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 AM:

" Here in Lancaster, PA, living alongside the Amish is a way of life. The Amish are good, trustworthy neighbors. Sure, their horses do occasionally make a mess on the streets. But after a few days it either dries up or the rain washes it away. Its far more tolerable, and smells less, than what large dogs do. And its a lot easier to get off your shoes! "


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